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 BALKANSKI DUHOVI
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Anonymous: komita
 January 31 2007 10:19 AM (Read 2765 times)  


"Hiljadu grckih i srpskih publicista (pisaca) pocelo je da ispunjava svet drekom o sustinski grckom ili srpskom karakteru stanovnistva, u okviru njihovih razlicitih zona. Srbi su nesrecnim Makedoncima dali 24 casa da se odreknu nacionalnosti i proglase se Srbima, a isto su to ucinili i Grci. Odbijanje je znacilo ubistvo ili proterivanje. Grcki i srpski kolonisti nagrnuli su u okupiranu zemlju...bugarski nastavnici su ubijani...bugarskim svestenicima je ponudjeno da se pokrste ili da budu ubijeni...grcke novine su pocele da pisu o Makedoniji kao zemlji potpuno naseljenoj Grcima - a cinjenicu da niko ne zna grcki objasnjavali su tako sto su narod nazivali "bugarofonim" Grcima... Grcki vojnici ulazili su u sela u kojima niko nije znao njihov jezik. "Sta hocete da kazete time sto pricate bugarski", kukali su oficiri.


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Anonymous: S.M.C. VRATNICE
 January 31 2007 16:38 PM  


Glupi Komito ,zar ne vidis da se stvar dogagja u geografsku Makedoniju ,sto nije sporno. Izlazenje nekog feljtona.Feljton uvek je bio ,Zuta Stampa,.Bilo kako bilo,tu lepo kaze ;da su se veselili,cestitali i grlili: Bugari,Jermenci,Turci,Albanci,Grci,Al tvojih ,,Mak-Donaca" N E M A, Pa N E M A !!!!!!


 
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Anonymous: S. M.C . VRATNICE
 January 31 2007 17:30 PM  


Fascinantno zar ne??Velika Novost; Balkanskog Ljudskog Bezcasca, Sveta Braca Ciril i Metodije ,,Makedonci" MADE IN ,,Komitas" Tintare. U ovom kosmaru, treba da ucestvuju, bar cetiri, ako ne i vise licnosti. Grk ne da ono sto je njegovo,Bugari i Srbi to znajui i postuju,a novokomponovani ,,Komita" sve to svojata. ,,Komita" tvrdi ,da je njegova mastarija i laz istina.U jednom trenutku ,,Komita" ispunjava svu ukupnost ljudske gluposti; Visokih i Niskih. ,,Komita" je ,,Plemenit i Hrabar" Jer Glupo-Plemenito, Hrabri, mogu, da svojataju tako nesto. ,,Komita" kad laze veruje sebi,a kad treba da se suoci sa svojim lazima,onda promeni temu; ko muva od jednih na drugig G...na! ,,Komita se uvek sroza na sopstvenom pocetku, al ne zaboravlja kako treba da bezi od istine. Njegovi refleksi, kvalifikuju ga da bude cist podlac.Verujem! Oni sto su radili snim, osetili su njegovu zlobu. ,,Komita" je perfektna dogodovstina na ovom sajtu; zbog toga sto dopusta,da se; siroka citalacka publika,zabavlja na njegovo trabunjanje. I tako ,,Komita" postaje klasicna tragikomedija[Vise Cirkus], jer mu los; Tutor-Ucitelj.


 
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Anonymous: komita
 February 02 2007 11:56 AM  


Knigata "Makedonija" e podgotvena e za potrebite na britanskata komisija kojashto uchestvuvala na Pariskata mirovna konferencija. Britanskoto Ministerstvo za nadvoresni raboti formiralo Komisija od eksperti kojasto trebalo iscrpno da go ispita makedonskoto prasanje. Vo odnos na prasanjeto deka Makedoncite imale bugarski koreni, britanskite istoricari decidno velat:


"MAKEDONCITE DO 1870 godina BEA POSEBNA NACIJA. PO VLEGUVANJEOT NA PROPAGANDITE VO MAKEDONIJA, GRCKATA, BUGARSKATA I SRPSKATA, MAKEDONCITE POCNAA DA JA GUBAT SVOJATA NACIONALNOST."


 
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Anonymous: комита
 February 02 2007 16:51 PM  


Quote by S.M.C. VRATNICE: Glupi Komito ,zar ne vidis da se stvar dogagja u geografsku Makedoniju ,sto nije sporno. Izlazenje nekog feljtona.Feljton uvek je bio ,Zuta Stampa,.Bilo kako bilo,tu lepo kaze ;da su se veselili,cestitali i grlili: Bugari,Jermenci,Turci,Albanci,Grci,Al tvojih ,,Mak-Donaca" N E M A, Pa N E M A !!!!!!


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Anonymous: S.M.C. Vratnice
 February 03 2007 16:52 PM  


Pa,,Komito" gde su bili Makedonci da se i Oni; Vesele, raduju i grlje? Zapamti to! Nemoze se nesto, veseliti,radovati i grliti ,ako to ne postoji. Kazes da su ,,makedonci" egzistirali do 1870 god. A zatim; Grcka,Bugarska i Srpska propaganda unistila ih. Ne ,,Eklipso"! ;Grci ,Bugari i Srbi nisu dali da im neko svojata nihovo,istorisko i kulturno nasljedje. Grci,Bugari i Srbi imali su, isprepletenu istoriju i drzavnost na tim prostorima, i normalno je, da kad braca delje zaostavstinu, malo se i posvadgaju.Zao mi je, sto nisam cuo il procitao da su se ,,makedonci bunili u vezi te deobe" Bio bih, suvise zahvalan,ako mozes posociti bar par imena.
Logika Vam ne radi! Vidi samo ovo; Djorce Petrov.U negovim putosestvijama kroz makedoniju kaze: makedonci nema,a Vi za nagradu, dadoste mu, da jedan gradic pored Skoplja nosi njegovo ime ; Djorce Petrov.Pa ne cudi me, sto danas ima silnih prepucavnja u vezi Misirkova u listu V E C E R .Pitam Vas! Gde vam je logika?????


 
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Anonymous: Dva Duba
 November 21 2016 12:39 PM  


Super Topic


 
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Anonymous: Dr. Tetovac
 November 21 2016 13:10 PM  


Bas me raduje,da je vratnicausa.com opet restartovala .,a specialno tematika BALKANSKI DUHOVI !


 
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Anonymous: DVA DUBA
 November 22 2016 15:33 PM  


Pametan Donald Tramp. Ja vec odavno blebecem,bar Ja tako mislim,,da : Srbin, Srbin - ,,Crnogorac'',Makedonac ,Grk i Bugarin ,nikad nece pucati u Ruskog vojnika. Ne zaboravite ,Bugarska za vrene Drugog Svetskog Rata, bila je samo Prisilno- nemacka dinastija uz Hitlera,al nikad Bugarska nije poslala ni jednog vojnika na istocnom frontu! Stratezi NATO pakta,dobro znaju, da Balkanski Vojnik uvek ce biti Ruski Crv -Worm-Spy u NATOvski sistem .Bas me interesuje ,kad bi ove zemlje ispitali,sto javno mnjene misli ,mozda i nasi Balkanski Vlasto drsci bi se opasuljili!


 
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Anonymous: DVA DUBA
 November 26 2016 15:05 PM  



2. SEDNAL MI DŽEMO
(anonymous)

Sednal mi Džemo sloboden, Džemo
Pod taja kruša gornica,
Na taja njiva ornica,
Vo leva roka ćilibar,
Vo desna roka martinka!
Majka mu veli, govori:
''Ne sedi, sinko, sloboden,
Sloboden, Džemo, raspašan,
Srbite glava dignale,
Iskočil Micko komita
So sedamdeset družina''.
Togaj mi Džemo govori,
-Ne boj se, majko, Srbina:
Srpska mi puška ne dupi,
Srpska mi sabja ne sece.
Ušte mi Džemo ne svrši-
Ete go Micko vojvoda!
Letna mi Džemo da bega,
Niz taja pusta planina.
Togaj mu Micko povika:
-Pocekaj, Džemo ne begaj
Da vidiš, Džemo cija;te, srpaka puska ne
Dupi li puška srbinska,
li sabja komitska ne Sece!


 
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Anonymous: sms
 November 26 2016 15:26 PM  


Anonymous: S.M.C. Vratnice
February 03 2007 16:52 PM














Pa,,Komito" gde su bili Makedonci da se i Oni; Vesele, raduju i grlje? Zapamti to! Nemoze se nesto, veseliti,radovati i grliti ,ako to ne postoji. Kazes da su ,,makedonci" egzistirali do 1870 god. A zatim; Grcka,Bugarska i Srpska propaganda unistila ih. Ne ,,Eklipso"! ;Grci ,Bugari i Srbi nisu dali da im neko svojata nihovo,istorisko i kulturno nasljedje. Grci,Bugari i Srbi imali su, isprepletenu istoriju i drzavnost na tim prostorima, i normalno je, da kad braca delje zaostavstinu, malo se i posvadgaju.Zao mi je, sto nisam cuo il procitao da su se ,,makedonci bunili u vezi te deobe" Bio bih, suvise zahvalan,ako mozes posociti bar par imena.
Logika Vam ne radi! Vidi samo ovo; Djorce Petrov.U negovim putosestvijama kroz makedoniju kaze: makedonci nema,a Vi za nagradu, dadoste mu, da jedan gradic pored Skoplja nosi njegovo ime ; Djorce Petrov.Pa ne cudi me, sto danas ima silnih prepucavnja u vezi Misirkova u listu V E C E R .Pitam Vas! Gde vam je logika?????


 
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Anonymous: sms
 November 26 2016 15:27 PM  


Anonymous: S.M.C. Vratnice
February 03 2007 16:52 PM














Pa,,Komito" gde su bili Makedonci da se i Oni; Vesele, raduju i grlje? Zapamti to! Nemoze se nesto, veseliti,radovati i grliti ,ako to ne postoji. Kazes da su ,,makedonci" egzistirali do 1870 god. A zatim; Grcka,Bugarska i Srpska propaganda unistila ih. Ne ,,Eklipso"! ;Grci ,Bugari i Srbi nisu dali da im neko svojata nihovo,istorisko i kulturno nasljedje. Grci,Bugari i Srbi imali su, isprepletenu istoriju i drzavnost na tim prostorima, i normalno je, da kad braca delje zaostavstinu, malo se i posvadgaju.Zao mi je, sto nisam cuo il procitao da su se ,,makedonci bunili u vezi te deobe" Bio bih, suvise zahvalan,ako mozes posociti bar par imena.
Logika Vam ne radi! Vidi samo ovo; Djorce Petrov.U negovim putosestvijama kroz makedoniju kaze: makedonci nema,a Vi za nagradu, dadoste mu, da jedan gradic pored Skoplja nosi njegovo ime ; Djorce Petrov.Pa ne cudi me, sto danas ima silnih prepucavnja u vezi Misirkova u listu V E C E R .Pitam Vas! Gde vam je logika?????


 
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Anonymous: Moravce
 November 28 2016 16:21 PM  


Citam ,da je stvorena Junija Albanskih Opstina u ;Albaniji,Makedoniji I na Kposovu!,Sta to znaci Noista manje nega Velika Albanija;Pa velika Albanija odavno je stvorena ,I to De Fakto je stvorena .Od Juzne Srbije ;Bujanovac,Presevo,Ristovac pa sve do Adriatika viore se Albanske Zastave,sto je isti slucaj I u Makedoniji ,od Kumanova pa sve do Adriatika sve je Albansko,izuzev Skopski Centar,je jedino Slavjansko Geto!,


 
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Anonymous: LJUBHOTAN
 November 29 2016 21:04 PM  


Rubrika Mislene vo Utrinski Vesnik od 25 8 11 i Komentar Îä: Ljubotan-Trade Name
Äŕňóě: 25.08.2011 02:46:38

Pisanieto, na Vecer e mnogu povrsno,ovde ne se Raboti za Dva Sveta tuku se Raboti za;Najgolem Balkanski Kosmar-Mora,Ovde se raboti za eden odreden i identikuvan Svet,i so jasni celi Albanski Svet,Ovoj Albanski Svet,odamna gi postignal svoite Istoriski Celi,a i podaleku od toa.Zapadno od Gjorce Petrov ne dozvoluva da se Viori drzavna Zastava na republika makedonoja , pa se do Adriatik.Makedonija De Fakto ne Postoi..Skopje stana Najgolemo Makedonsko Geto i toa. na samo desetina kvadratni kilometri! Kumanovo e vo Opsada,na Veles,Prilep i Bitolsko se merka.Znam na Ovoj Albanski Svet ne mu se Brza;Vremeto raboti za Nego!Eee Drugiot, Makedonski Svet e Vo Bunilo; Imaat Brasno od :Titici,Yugici,Slavici,Srbomanici,Bugarofilici,Grkomanici,SlavoMakedonici,Ace Makedonici i drug kalankusur! .Pa i najdobar Pekar ce vi kaze:Od ova Brasno ne sePravi Leb,Ova moze bi bese Lapsus na Avtorot i rece,,Makedoncite povece Mislat za Nacionalniot identitet tuku za Drzavata,Jas bi Rekol Vajs Versa! Se gleda .Totqalna Konfuzija!


 
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Anonymous: Ljubotan
 December 01 2016 21:41 PM  


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Anonymous: CITALAC
 December 05 2016 19:59 PM  


Super ,vratnicausa.com je fasinantno citati je! Poceo sam da je citam u proseku dva sata dnevno. Vratnicausa.com pruza sasvim nesto novo,sto za poslednih sedamdeset godina niko nista nije napisao,il razmisljao!


 
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Anonymous: Silver River
 December 18 2016 20:09 PM  


Poceo je; Raspad Makedonije,Svi ce biti zadovoljni Grci,Bugari,Abanci,i nema vise Makedonije, i Makedonsko Pitanje! Bice malo potegni i povuci za granicu izmegju Albanije i Bugarske.Srbija odavno je digla ruke od Milutinove Stare Srbije Stare Srbije! Bugari I Albanci ima ,da dele ,bas Ono, sto je; Srpski Opanak Oslobodio od 1912 godine posle Pet vekova,.sto je Dusanova Srbija izgubila od Bolesnika na Bosforu!


 
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Anonymous: Z.P
 December 25 2016 18:13 PM  


Dal su Oni ;Slavo Makedonci,il su Acetovi Makedonci -Srljaju u Samoubistvo ,i dosli su na ivici ponora Obe politicke stranke posle 25 decembra najavljuju pobedu I stvaranje vlade,E bas je to ;Ta Makedonska Nebidnica! Sve se radi na tome,i spolj,a I iznutra ,da se tri strane zadovolje,i da bi se stvorila granica Izmegju Bugarije I Albanije,bice malo potegni povuci, o liniji razgranicenja al bice granice. Sve tri strane bice zadovoljni-Grcija,Bugarija I Albanija. Za Grcku, problem sa imenom,nema vise I nestace Republika Makedonija , Bugariji vraca im se Bugarsko Samoilovo Zapadno Carstvo do Ohrida, Albanija ,bez malo ostvarila Veliku Albaniju bez vranske doline,Srbija, odavno je digla ruke od Juzne -Stare Srbije!


 
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Anonymous: ZSP
 December 27 2016 21:28 PM  


Ako je Seselj Odoleo NATO PAKTU, i HAGU, Valjda, i On ce se jednog dana,ako se Srbi Opamete, Posetice Kosovo za neku proslavu 1389 godisnice,sa prisustvom miliona Srba, kako je uradio Milisevic!,Jer Kosovo je vece, nego li: Nato I Hag i Albanska Ujdurma na Srpskoj Kolevci,sto se zove Kosovo!i!


 
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Anonymous: Ministar Spoljnih poslova Srbije Dacic
 January 02 2017 07:22 AM  


Dačič je rekao da se isto odnosi i na Makedoniju i da je Srbija pogrešila što je tu zemlju priznala pod njenim ustavnim imenom, jer ona priznala Kosovo.

"Srbija je napravila veliku grešku zbog toga. Cela Evropa i svet koriste naziv Bivša Jugoslovenska Republika Makedonija, a mi smo našoj braći Grcima udarili šamar i sad očekujemo od Grka da oni ne priznaju Kosovo, a Makedoniju smo priznali vređajući Grke a oni (Makedonci) uvek glasaju za Kosovo. Ja moram da kažem da smo budale. Evo, upotrebiću nediplomatski izraz", rekao je Dačić.

On je rekao da će Beograd u bilateralnim odnosima sa Skopljem upotrebljavati ustavno ime, ali da će mulilataralno koristiti ime koje se upotrebljava u EU i UN - BJRM.

"Sada ćete vi da kažete da je to osveta. Nije to osveta, to je odgovorna državna i nacionalna politka. Nije Srbija otirač svakom da može da se sa nama igra. Mi nikome ne dozvoljavamo da nas ponižava. Ako nekome nisu važne naše crkve i manastiri na Kosovu i Metohiji, koji su zapaljeni i koji su uništeni, i to nije dovoljno da neko bude bar uzdražan o pitanju Uneska, onda ja moram da postavim pitanje suštine naših odnosa", rekao je Dačić.

Dačič je rekao da je uloga spoljne politike da"na najbolji način odbrani državne i nacionalne interese" i dauopšte ne pati za bivšom zajedničkom državom


 
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Anonymous: Ljubotan
 January 05 2017 20:39 PM  


Kuva se Kuva, Balkanski Kazan poceo da kljuca, kako u Bosni i Hercegovini,al jos,i vise u Makedoniji,samo se nezna tacno ciji ce se Fitilj prvi, i zapaliti! U BH postavljaju se Barikade ,a u Makedoniji Barikade - Albanski Uslovi su Barikade postavljeni,samo se ceka ,ko ce prvi opaljiti prvu pusku. Dodik u B i H je u boljoj Pozicii nego Grujevski. Dok Srpska je stvarana sa Krvi do kolena,I krvlju ce se braniti,a kod Grujevskog ,drzava bez krvi do kolena nema drzave. Bas I Ono, sto im je Srbija ;Dala poklonila- oslobodila u Balkanskim ratovima Makedoncima,Makedonci nece moci da odbrane,sto bi rekli ;Lako im doslo,I jos lakse im otislo!


 
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Anonymous: LJUBOTAN
 January 07 2017 14:01 PM  


Istorja ,Evo danas za Pravoslavni Bozic Kakvu cestitku Albanci salju Makedoniji! Nisam Zlurad,al jos ovo sam pisao Februara 3 2007 godine
February 03 2007 16:52 PM
Pa,,Komito" gde su bili Makedonci da se i Oni; Vesele, raduju i grlje? Zapamti to! Nemoze se nesto, veseliti,radovati i grliti ,ako to ne postoji. Kazes da su ,,makedonci" egzistirali do 1870 god. A zatim; Grcka,Bugarska i Srpska propaganda unistila ih. Ne ,,Eklipso"! ;Grci ,Bugari i Srbi nisu dali da im neko svojata nihovo,istorisko i kulturno nasljedje. Grci,Bugari i Srbi imali su, isprepletenu istoriju i drzavnost na tim prostorima, i normalno je, da kad braca delje zaostavstinu, malo se i posvadgaju.Zao mi je, sto nisam cuo il procitao da su se ,,makedonci bunili u vezi te deobe" Bio bih, suvise zahvalan,ako mozes posociti bar par imena.
Logika Vam ne radi! Vidi samo ovo; Djorce Petrov.U negovim putosestvijama kroz makedoniju kaze: makedonci nema,a Vi za nagradu, dadoste mu, da jedan gradic pored Skoplja nosi njegovo ime ; Djorce Petrov.Pa ne cudi me, sto danas ima silnih prepucavnja u vezi Misirkova u listu V E C E R .Pitam Vas! Gde vam je logika?????


 
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Anonymous: Dr Tetovac
 February 24 2017 18:00 PM  


Bravo Ljubatanu ,.Eto I danas kod ,,Makedonaca" Nezna se ko su Oni!


 
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Anonymous: Z S P
 March 02 2017 17:00 PM  


@ŃđĺĽčž Ěčëóňčí ,,Ěîđĺ áđĺ ćŕî ěč ňčő Ěŕęĺäîíŕöŕ ,ěŕĽęĺ ěč , ďŕ ňŕ íŕöčĽŕ íčęŕäŕ íčĽĺ çíŕëŕ îä ęîăŕ äŕ ńĺ áđŕíč" .OD .KAD ,JE Makedonija BILA NACIJA? Danas Makedonija ima suvise mnogo nacija,to jest na tim prostorima Jedna Majka radja mnogo nacija;;Srbi,Srbomani,Bugari ,Bugarofili,Titici,Jugici,Vlasi,Cinc,ari Slavomakedonci ,Acevi Makedonci.Zar od ove papazijanije mozes stvoriti Naciju? Pitanje je;,ciji su Goce Delcev ,Jane Sandanski,,Nikola Karev,Gjorce Petrov,Dame Grujev Krste Misirkov,Braca Miladinovci -Tga Za Jug Blgarski narodni pesni, VMRO? Pa Vmro bhio je izvan zakona sve do propasti SFRJ, Svi Srpski Manastiri ,Crkve i Srpsku Istoriju prisvojilia je TKZ Makedonska Drzava,kao da su njihovi [Kraljevic Marko]. A,destak Imena Srpskih Vojvoda su tabu tema u Makedoniji , Dal znate ,da je Najljepsa Srpska herojska pesma ,da nije sklepana nigde vec u samoj okolini SKOPLJA ;SPREMTE SE SPREMTE CETNICI SILNA CE BITKA DA BUDE [VOJVODA BABUNSKI]! Skoplje i okolina jos mirisu na Nemanice!.Pa evo i Albanci su na Makedonskoj Zemlji,sto Albancima ne Kazu,da su i Oni njihovi! Drugim recima od ove Bugarske i Srpske Istoriske Bastine ne pravi se nacija u 21vom veku. Najveca tragedija je u tome,sto Ovi ,,Makedonci " ispade,da za njih svi su krali od njih, Istorija kaze drugacije! Verujte mi, sve ovo ispisah na precac ,nisam pazio na sve pisane formalnosti!


 
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Anonymous: ZSP za BG Politika 5 3 -Albanski Prdsednik
 March 05 2017 17:02 PM  


Predsenik Albanije Nisani dobio Vizu od Vucica, da poseti ;Presevsku oblast ,a za uzvrat Vucuc dobice Vizu da poseti Srpsku opstinu na Kosovo! Zar ne rece Vucic pre par dana ,,Kakav bi Ja to bio predsednik,ako ne posetim Kosovo".Sve je to dogovoreno,pa evo I ministar unutrasnih poslova to taj dogovor Blagosilja!


 
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Anonymous: Ljubotan
 March 05 2017 20:29 PM  


U Bosni ,Makedoniji,i na Kosovu trazicese ; Ratni Pobednik,sve do onda bice Uslovni ,,MIR"[NATO il Poltroni NATOa-Tako mi rece Cerka .Ph Politicke Situacije na Balkanu!.Ona ,napisa,u Ph Desertaciji; U Bosni Nikad Nece Biti Mira ,Dok Srbi I Bosnaci ne ugju u ,,Kome Opanke,a kome Obojci! Trazi se vojnicki pobednik ,a ne Okupacija Bosne od strane Sile,kao sto je bila Austroungarska I danas NATO!


 
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Anonymous: Moravce
 March 07 2017 15:57 PM  


Pa ova PH-Dr politicke nauke ;Sorbone I Columbije ,stavila je celu politicku rezoluciju ,u jednu recenicu; Kome Obojci,i kome Opanci!


 
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Anonymous: Ljubotan
 March 10 2017 06:41 AM  


Odlicna Strategija VMROa I SDSM uz katalizatora DUI I BESA za konacni raspad Titove Tvorevoine.Sa raspadom, resice se tri potraznje;Bugari dobice Zapadno Bugarsko Carstvo,Albanija nihov san O Velikoj Albaniji,a Grci resice problem sa imenom Makedonija.!Srbija odavno je digla ruke od Juzne Srbije,bice malo potegni povuci za Presevsku Dolinu,,al I to je gotovo - Videli smo posetu Albanskog Predsednika Bujanovcuu-,,Cji su Ovce na Planini - Njegova je I Planina!


 
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Anonymous: DVA DUBA
 March 11 2017 15:28 PM  


Da se ne Lazemo,VMRO ,DSM I DUI su u Sluzbi-Blue Print Amerike I EU.. VMRO ,je Najstarija Bugarska pretenzija na Zapadno Bugarsko-Samoilovo Carstvo,DUI I BESA Stvarane Velike Albanije ,,a katalizator svega toga uz pomoci SAD I EU Nasao se SDSM I ZAEV,Psle Ohridskih Dolaze DEJTONSKI SPORAZUMI . Verujte mi ,ni jedan jedini metak nece biti ispucan.Mogu da masu zastavama,al nisu spremni da ginu za Makedoniju.,jer nikad nisu krvarili za Makedoniju!


 
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Anonymous: ZSP
 March 11 2017 17:23 PM  


Bas Me Raduje , sto vec dvadesetak godina pisem ,o Makedonskoj ne Logici! ,,Makedonci" ,ako Vas Ima?Presekli ste Srpsku Granu,na koju ste Cucali! Srpski Bog,,sve Vam je dao;Jezik,Naciju,Drzavu,Istoriju ,na Ustrb Srbske I Bugarske Bastine ,al Vas Gjavo nije vam Dao! Mozete ,da pevate ,do sutra,i da masete Zastavama,al sa tim ne stvara se nacija. Nacija ,Treba, Krvi do Kolena,a Vi niste Spremni za tu Zrtvu.Sto vam je Srpska Cizma-Srpski Opanak omegjio 1912 god, I dao vam,i To ce te ,da ga izgubite!,,Lako Vam Doslo,I Jos lakse je Otislo"


 
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Anonymous: Ljubotan
 March 12 2017 18:38 PM  


Ljubotan 12. mart 2017. 00:12 #4469460
Beogradske Vecerni Novosti Objavili su ovaj komentar,kao naj potvrdni!
Bas Me Raduje , sto vec dvadesetak godina pisem ,o Makedonskoj ne Logici! ,,Makedonci" Presekli ste Srpsku Granu,na koju ste Cucali! Srpski Bog,,sve Vam je dao;Jezik,Naciju,Drzavu,Istoriju ,na Ustrb Srbske I Bugarske Istoriske Bastinje,al Vas Gjavo Vam nije Dao!


 
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Anonymous: Makedonec
 April 11 2017 11:35 AM  


MAKEDONIJA VECNA


 
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Anonymous: Silver river
 June 04 2017 18:30 PM  













Vidim da ste se dosta unezverili,dosao vam kraj, al nista nisi ponaosob objasnio. Kako sam kazes, da smo Mi priglupi, a Ti ,,nasisisan belosvetskog znanja":..Imam molbu,da Vase Znanosti, bude ljubazan i odgovori na vrlo fundamentalna pitanja u vezi ,,Tvoje Nacije i Drzave"

1] Kada je egzistirala ,,Tvoja Drzava"
2] Gde su bile granice ,,Tvoje Drzave"
3] Gde je bio glavni grad,,Tvoje Drzave"
4] Kako se zvao glavni grad,,Tvoje Drzave'
5] Ko su po imenu, Carevi i Kraljevi ,,Tvoje Drzave"
6] Skim i kada je ratovala,,Tvoja Drzava"
7] Koje je bitke dobila,kada i skim,,Tvoja Drzava"
8] Koje je bitke izgubila,kada i skim,,Tvoja Drzava"
9] Gde je bila do 21 og.veka ,,Tvoja Drzava"
10] Kada i kako je nestala ,,Tvoja Drzava&quot


 
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Anonymous: Vratnica usa
 June 05 2017 20:18 PM  


ZLATKO S P ďđĺ 20 ńŕňč U Bg Politika

Bas ovih dana, slusao sam neke analize zapadih komentatora i News Media .Istina je ,TABU TEMA u zapadnim zvanicnim oficijalnim ;Pro Vladinim Institucijama I Provladinih News Media .Evo prosto, a to svi znamo;Sta je to;Uzrok I Posledice .. Danas smo svedoci tragicnih posledica ;Paris,Brisel Minhen,London. Niko zvanicno ne prica,i ne govori o Uzroku,vec se govori o posledicama Terorizma-! Na Forumu ,ima puno mudrijih I skolovanijih od moje niskosti,al imam jedno jednostavno pitanje.za Komentatore Bg Politka; Kakva je,i gde je razlika od reci: Odmazda,[Revenge,iRevansizam ,Retaliation,Reprisal] i Teror - izam ?!


 
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Anonymous: Vratnica USA-Get Togeher
 June 20 2017 14:05 PM  


Da ste mi ,ovo rekli,pre godinu dana,da ce Hrvatica ,pa uz to i Hrvatska Lezbejka ,da komanduje "Srpskom Vucicevom" vladom,to nam je Hrvadski poklon! Da ste mi ovo rekli ,pre godinu dana ,,reko bi vam;Vi ste prezreli za ludnicu! Al, Dogodio se Srbiji sa Vucicem ,i taj Marfijev Zakon


 
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Anonymous: Saint P4etka
 June 28 2017 13:10 PM  



BIOGRAPHY OF PROTOJEREJ-STAVROPHOR
STEVAN PETROVICH


“Blessed is the way in which you walk today, O soul,
for a place of rest has been prepared for you,”

(The Prokeimenon before the Epistle reading at the Funeral Service)


At every Divine Liturgy, we pray for “a Christian ending to our life: painless, blameless and peaceful; and a good defense before the dread judgment seat of Christ.”

Protopresbyter-Stavrophor Father Stevan Petrovich had spent his whole life in preparing this defense he would give Christ. He entirely immersed himself in this prayer and so he passed on – with a peaceful conscience, painlessly, in his sleep – an hour after midnight, on January 23, 2011.

In the final years of his life, when his family would ask him how he was, Father Stevan would answer, “I am waiting for my visa.” His soul was ready for the journey; he only awaited an invitation from the One Who called everything from non-being into being, and Who gives life eternal to all.

As the greatest life achievement of Prota Stevan, the most often mentioned one is his key role in the building of the temple of St. Petka in Troy, Michigan, where the people from Fr. Stevan’s native village of Vratnica gather. This parish – for the founding of which he was the decisive factor and, by nature of his priestly service, the spiritual initiator – had covered a lengthy and weighty journey with him: from the small community in the chapel in Detroit, to the magnificent church in Troy with capacity for over 500 souls.

It is, therefore, obvious why the building of the temple of St. Petka is cited as Father Stevan’s most important legacy. However, Fr. Stevan had expressed his own view of this enterprise, addressing his son Zlatko with the following words, “My son, not just yourself, but all of you should know: Vratnica and its people cannot build up St. Petka, for she is too holy and great for us to build, but St. Petka has built up Vratnica and its people.”

Prota Stevan speaks of the building of the much more important temple within man himself, which makes him the dwelling of the Living God. Such a temple, not made by hands, but created by the grace of God, is the most important legacy of Prota Stevan. He built it up first and foremost within himself, and then in others as well, reminding them that the true Builder of the Holy is not man, nor his money and power, but God Himself, Who sanctifies all creation. Standing up against the cynicism of this age that doubts the existence of God, Prota Stevan tried to help others also to renew the neglected temples of their souls.

Many contemporaries of Prota Stevan were not entirely aware of the greatness and value of the man who lived alongside them. According to the words of priest Kristijan Petrovich, grandson of the late Prota of blessed repose, Fr. Stevan was well known as a champion in reaping, a physically enduring man and an industrious farmer, but few in the village knew that he was also excellently versed in Latin and ancient Greek, being vastly educated and well-read.

After his blessed repose, however, this God-kept secret begins to reveal itself – who was Prota Stevan, this colossus of a man, in both the physical and spiritual sense?

Father Stevan was born around St. Marko’s day, 1919, in Vratnica village, in the Tetovo area, to the honorable family Misailovich-Petrovich, of father Kosta and mother Naca. Being the oldest son of four children (two brothers and a sister), he was supposed to stay on his parents’ estate. However, the Lord had foreseen something else for His servant. After he finished four grades of elementary school, it became clear to everyone that this child had great potential that should not be wasted in the village and farming life. The boy Stevan then finished elementary school in his native village and secondary grammar school in Tetovo. With the blessing of Archbishop Joseph, in 1935 he enrolled in the six-year Theological Seminary of Cyril and Methodius in Prizren.

Fr. Stevan carried on with his studies with great sacrifices, away from his parents’ home, under strict discipline and in a demanding academic atmosphere. He graduated on April 29, 1941, at the dawn of the Second World War in that region, and upon returning home, he found that Skopje was under Bulgarian occupation, and the village priest of Vratnica was already in the service of Bulgarian propaganda. The Bulgarian authorities visibly hoped that this young, smart theologian, once the war ended, would also become a useful tool of their propaganda as a Bulgarian priest; however, Fr. Stevan clearly and defiantly demonstrated to them his orientation for Serbia and the Serbian Church.

Prota Stevan got married in 1942 to Mitana Savich, from a respected Serbian family in Vratnica. They had three children: son Zlatko (1943), daughter Vida (1946) and son Vasko (1949).

After the WWII ended, Fr. Stevan used his high education, great renown and influence with the people to expose the fallacies and misdeeds of the Communist regime. He sharply opposed the revision of history and the godless’ attacks on Svetosavlje and the Serbian name. For this reason, from 1945 to 1949 he was persecuted, imprisoned and intimidated.

Finally, in the spring of 1949, he was sentenced to twenty-five years in jail and spent three years as a political prisoner in the notorious Idrizovo prison. There he endured daily beatings and hard physical labor. Many prisoners succumbed to the tortures and ended their lives in captivity. However, by the miraculous intercession of St. Petka, Father Stevan’s patron saint (krsna slava), who appeared to him in the dungeon and encouraged him, he endured all tortures glorifying and praising God.

Under the pressure from the Western allies, Yugoslavia was forced to free all the political prisoners, so Fr. Stevan came out of prison, on November 29, 1953. From 1954 to 1956, he worked as a treasurer in a company in Vratnica.

On the Feast of the Holy Archangel Michael, November 8/21 1956, Patriarch Vikentie ordained the theologian Stevan into the rank of presbyter in the Cathedral church of St. Michael in Belgrade.

For the next ten years, as the parish priest of a number of villages in the Tetovo area, Fr. Stevan raised the people in the Orthodox Faith by evangelical word, and even more so by his personal example of humility, courage and virtue.

The year 1966 brought new temptations with the announcement of the forming of an autocephalous Macedonian church. Father Stevan saw through the political background of these tendencies and, not wanting to be a priest of a schismatic and canonically unrecognized church, he decided to go to America. His daughter Vida, who already lived in Detroit with her family, helped him in this effort, along with St. Lazarus Church – Ravanica.

Prota Stevan arrived in Detroit in 1967. Simultaneously working in a factory, he served as an auxiliary priest in a number of parishes: in Windsor and London (Canada), in St. George Church in Monroe and St. Lazarus’ in Detroit.

In 1979, with the blessing of bishop Firmilian, the church-school congregation of St. Petka was founded, which gathered the old compatriots and parishioners of Prota Stevan, from Vratnica and the surrounding villages of the Tetovo area. In 1991, services began in the chapel in Detroit, while the cornerstone of the new church in Troy was laid in 2003.

For the next fifteen years, until the end of his active priestly service, Prota Stevan served as the parish priest of St. Petka Church. Being exceptional in everything, he was more an exception, rather than a rule, so he also served these fifteen years without any monetary compensation, supporting himself from his factory pension, which he earned in the meantime.

In the age that glorifies apostasy, and mocks virtue, Prota Stevan was often exposed to mockery from misguided individuals, because of his thunderous and, above all, sincere sermons. His favorite saying was the words from the 14th Psalm, “The fool says in his heart: There is no God.”

Prota Stevan was a living example to the contemporary man who is too touchy and quick to take offense. He forgave all who mocked him; he even on one occasion invited his old “friends,” who turned him over to prison in the old country, for dinner in his Detroit home. Truly, he was a real peacemaker who forgave his enemies, endured insults without complaining, at all times glorifying God’s name above everything.

Prota Stevan fulfilled in his life every word of the Holy Gospel, and the words of the Psalmist were found to be true in him that he would see his “children’s children.” (Ps. 128:6) He lived to see eleven grandchildren and eighteen great-grandchildren. His extreme generosity is demonstrated by the fact that he was the first Serbian priest to donate his entire yearly salary from the factory for the building of the Saint Sava Temple in Vrachar. In addition, he was a great sponsor of the Serbian monastery Hilandar on Mount Athos.

Toward the end of his active service, Prota Stevan’s health began to deteriorate fast, so that, in his own words, he was relieved and joyous to be replaced in his priestly service by his grandson, Kristijan. He retired as rector in April 2005.

It was God’s will that Prota Stevan should suffer in life, but also, due to health reasons, to never have the opportunity to serve in the big temple of St. Petka which was built through his merit. The ways of the Lord are unfathomable for the human mind, and God Himself knows why it was so. Prota Stevan personally always fled human praise and considered it as dust. In his last years, he was all but forgotten by those who were most indebted to him.

However, “a city on a hill cannot be hidden.” (Mt.5:14) His blessed repose and funeral, which, according to the words of one person, was worthy of a king, revealed to the world the depths of his dedication to God and the Holy Church.

His Graces, Bishops Longin and George, at the invitation of the family, served the Funeral service on Friday, January 28, 2011, in the church of St. Petka. There were as many people in the church as can only be seen on Easter. Ten priests served with the bishops, and three more attended the service. After the funeral service, bishop Longin gave a eulogy, inspired and touched by the throngs of people that poured into the church to give the last kiss to their longtime parish priest and spiritual father. The family of the late Prota of blessed repose prepared a meal for the clergy and the people in the temple vestibule.

Priest Kristijan, who with great love washed and vested his grandfather’s body and prepared it for the funeral, spent the entire day and night by Fr. Stevan’s coffin in church, reading the Gospels and Psalms with two other pious parishioners. In the morning, bishop Longin served the Divine Hierarchical Liturgy with five priests and a deacon, and the responses from the St. Petka choir. In spite of the snowstorm that hit Metro Detroit during the night, the church was packed with people once more. His Grace saw Prota Stevan off at the cemetery, but unfortunately could not stay for the luncheon, which the family had prepared in the hall of St. Lazarus church, and where about 350 people attended.

Similar to the sticheras written in honor of the saints, we have to ask ourselves, “With what wreaths of praise shall we crown” this gifted and faith-filled servant of God? He was ahead of his time and contemporaries, in many things akin to those whom Apostle Paul mentions, “of whom the world was not worthy.” (Heb. 11:38) Now in the heavenly abodes he rejoices and prays for us who hope that, through his prayers and holding on to the hem of his robe, we might be raised aloft into the arms of the merciful Lord and hear the words that he surely heard, “Well done, good and faithful servant… Enter into the joy of your master!” (Mt. 25:23)

Memory Eternal to our father, grandfather, great-grandfather and spiritual elder, Protopresbyter-Stavrophor Stevan Petrovich, and God grant him the Heavenly Kingdom unto ages of ages! Amen.

-Official website of the Central Church Council of the Serbian Orthodox Church in America and Canada. Any reproduction of content from this site must be quoted in its entirety with the source cited. ©2016. All rights reserved.



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Anonymous: VratnicaUSA-Get Together
 August 10 2017 19:15 PM  


Ako Vas zaista nesto interesuje samo Pitajte,Mi smo Tui ,da pomognemo ,al o istini,a ne o propaganda! ;O svemu i svacemu, jer mi smo pri kraju!,nek ne bude,kao i ono, a zasto ne pitah Tatu,Bar na Uvetu o nasoj istini dok je bio ziv! Pitanja nek budu; Moralna ,Istoriska,Politicka ,Religiozna,Nacionalna O ljudima iz Vratnice,o Vratnickim Gorostasima ,Vratnicke Vododelnice,Vratnicki Raskorak Nacionalni i Kanonski,Ko Smo,Sta Smo i Gde Smo?? , Sto Nam Treba Ciniti. Dal smo Mi -zaapamtite ;Poslednji Vratnicki Sveto Savski Hazari..


 
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Anonymous: ZSP
 August 20 2017 18:21 PM  


Ovo je samo, Makedonski Blef kod NATOa a mozda ,da je, i iskalkulisani Blef Makedonije i NATOa- protiv Rusije .Kakva Rusija kakvi Bakraci Da,da Makedoniji zuri joj se,ne zbog ,,Ruskog Puca" u Makedoniji,vec zbog Albanskog Puca u Makedoniji . "Makedonska " vlada,,to nije valda ,to je strasan kompromis-Tantalove Muke Zaeva sa Tiranskim Zahtevima., Ee e , dosla Kuca na Vratanca.. Makedonci,sa Bugarima prosle nedelje dogovoril se se:.Isti Heroji,ista Istorija ,iste zajednicke istoriske proslave,.Sta ces vise od toga ,,samo ne dirajte u nas makedonski dialekt.! Zaev zagrizao jabuku,sto ne moze da je proguta A, Makedonci nece ni da pomirisu te Zaeve Jabuke .Pocelo je ove nedelje;Jezik,onda,Albanska Istorija u Makedoniji,Ime,Zname,Slike na Novcu,Himna,Simbol Dzave ,Insignija na Svim Drzavnim Uniformama.[Armija,Policija iTd iTd},Kocenzus,Zar treba da Vas jos Zamaram?


 
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Anonymous: SMC
 August 28 2017 14:35 PM  


Prijateljstvo ,,srpskog"Vucica i Rame ,,Mozda, i moze biti,mozda su ista krvana grupa ,pa i neki genetski Rod pogledate njihovu visinu,mislim fizicku Mi, koji smo porasli snima,u ;Dobro i u Zlo, znamo,kakav je to mentalitet,dok im trebas Oni su Lopata i Lisica,a ako ti u zlu Oni trebali Oni su Ljopata i Ljisica ! Siptare i Srbe mozes ih muckati vazdan,kao Zejtin i Voda i nika se nece pomesati !


 
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